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Elena · Zadnja promjena: Elena; sub ruj 22, 2007 8:19 am; ukupno mijenjano 3 put/a.

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeffrey Kuhner

To: Jackie Prkić; Ivana Arapović

Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:52 PM

Subject: Apology

To the Croatian Twin Towers: Please read this in its entirety and do not
simply skim it. This is very important. Thanks!

Ivana: You don't need to apologize to me as well. We have all been in your
situation before: we have all been lied to, misled and deceived by someone
close to us. It's unfortunately part of life. You happen to have been misled
and used by someone you were romantically involved with. I have never had
this happen to me--thank the Lord--but I have been badly betrayed and
deceived by numerous close friends and professional colleagues. It happens.
Our intuition and judgment fail us sometimes. The key is to learn from our
mistakes and move on. That is what I have done in the past. It is what I
hope you will do now. You need to rally and put this episode behind you. As
I mentioned to you on the phone, Ivana, you have a promising career and life
ahead of you. But this can only happen if you seize your destiny and change
the direction of your life. You have to end your constant surfing and
chatting on the Internet. You need to eat better and more regularly. You
need to sleep 8 hours a day. You need to exercise more. You need to pray
more. You need to focus on your health. You need to focus on your job. You
need to focus on developing your mind and your talents. You need to develop
a network of friends in Montreal. In short, you need to start living your
life.

To Jackie and Ivana: All three of us have been badly betrayed and burned by
Croatia. Ivana for the longest time; me for the second longest; and Jackie
the shortest. But all of us were misled, used and deceived by numerous
people. I have spent years defending the general and fighting for Croatia.
It has taken a toll on my health, my career and most importantly, my family.
You have no idea how bitter and disappointed I am. My family lost everything
to the Communists after 1945--many of our closest members and friends, our
home, our land, our country, and ultimately, our dignity and pride. We were
thrown to the winds. Not even dogs were treated as badly as we were by the
Communists. To now see these very same men and their descendents running the
country from positions of power and privilege, and to do so in OUR name--in
the name of a supposedly free and independent Croatia--is perhaps the worst
indignity of all. Every instinct and fiber in my being cries out for
justice, cries out for me to wage ceaseless political and intellectual war
against these gangsters until there is no breath left in my body. But Ivana
and Jackie, I am telling you we will have our day. We will have our triumph.
It is like 1945. They may have won for now. But final victory shall be ours
for one simple reason: Their regime cannot last. Like the Communists, their
greed, stupidity, barbarism and rapaciousness will be their undoing. The
Croatian people, when they have suffered enough, when they have been
impoverished enough, when they have been betrayed enough, will finally rise
up against their slave masters. When they do, we will be ready.

But all three of us now need to make a strategic retreat. We need to do what
great Croatian patriots have always done before: bide our time and wait for
the moment to strike. Let our enemies exhaust themselves, reveal themselves,
fight amongst themselves and destroy themselves. We will only get stronger.
Ivana, you are now working at a prominent Jewish think tank. The Jews are a
great people--in fact, a role model for the Croatian people. Moreover, they
are an immensely successful and influential people. There is much that you
can learn and emulate from them. Use this time at the CIJR wisely--make good
contacts, develop your research and writing skills, expand your mind, and
most importantly, build up your career as a writer, journalist and
researcher. Jackie, you are working at one of the largest and most
successful law firms in the world. You also need to use your natural
charisma and likeable personailty to cultivate contacts and develop working
relationships. You need to finish your law degree. You need to become a
full-fledged lawyer in your own right. I need to build up Insight and my
career as an editor and columnist in Washington. We need to do this so that
when the next political revolution hits Croatia, we shall be ready to lead
it.

For all of Croatia's tragic suffering throughout the past century, one thing
remarkably stands clear: Its position keeps getting better. Stjepan Radic
provided the dream of an independent Croatia, keeping the country's national
consciousness alive at a time when it could have collapsed completely;
Cardinal Stepinac put forth a brilliant and courageous vision of a just and
free Croatia, an eternal Croatia that will last forever--despite all of the
crimes committed on its soil by Communist butchers; and Franjo Tudjman,
through sheer force of will, forged an independent state--a real state that
has its own parliament, borders and flag. We now have a state. The challenge
is to transform it into a just, free and genuinely independent state.

This is why I'm giving all of us new revolutionary code names. Ivana, your
name will be Radic. You are just like him--sentimental, generous-hearted,
brainy, a writer, and a combative intellectual (but also naive and prone to
constant betrayal). Jackie, your name will be Tudjman. You are also just
like him--politically shrewd, tenacious, a person of immense will power,
full of public charisma, a natural leader and hopefully, a former leftist
turned rightist (but also emotionally volatile and prone to grudges and
political disputes). My name will be Stepinac. I am also just like him--a
strict moralist, an uncompromising visionary and prominent public
intellectual and speaker (but also prone to being unworldly and unable to
build lasting coalitions in the real world of dirty politics).

For all of their great strengths and virtues, all three of these men had one
fatal flaw, which was ultimately their undoing. This is why we're going to
develop our natural strengths and most importantly, work on improving our
natural flaws. Ivana, you will learn to be less naive, less prone to
betrayal and focus on providing for your real needs as a person--health,
money and career. Jackie, you will learn to be more emotionally steady, less
impulsive and conspiratorial, and work on becoming a better bridge builder.
I will learn to be more pragmatic, less headstrong and idealistic, more
concerned with the immediate needs of my family and close friends, and a
better organizer/manager of people, especially political people. In the end,
a perfect Radic, a perfect Stepinac and a perfect Tudjman equal one thing:
King Tomislav. Of all of Croatia's leaders, he was the greatest: he had a
brilliant mind, shrewd political instincts, a generous heart, excellent
judgment, formidable military skills, a natural charisma that inspired
loyality and trust among his followers, and a pristine, boundless
patriotism. King Tomislav was the only Croatian patriot who founded a truly
free, independent and just Croatian state--a state that incorporated all of
Croatia's ancestral territories. He created one of the greatest Medieval
republics in Europe. But his successors gradually, through greed, betrayal
and corruption, squandered away everything King Tomislav had built.
Eventually, Croatia's freedom was extinguished and submerged into the
Hungarian kingdom. Everything Croatian patriots have wanted for the past
1,000 years has been to return to the glorious home built by King
Tomislav--a home where all Croatians can live in freedom, dignity and peace.

For the next stage of Croatia's political revolution toward the final
resting place of King Tomislav's home to be successful, we will need a
perfect Radic, a perfect Stepinac and a perfect Tudjman--all working
together to the best of our abilities and talents. Our time will come, and
when it comes we will create a political movement that will shake
Croatia--and Europe--to its very foundations. We will re-create the national
home of King Tomislav's Croatia. And Jackie and Ivana, you may ask: "But who
will be the King Tomislav who will finally lead Croatia to the promised
land? He does not exist. Where is he?" Take my word for it: he does exist. I
know who he is. He knows who he is. He is waiting in the wings (and no, it
is not Gen. Ante Gotovina). When the right moment presents itself, he will
take the mantle of leadership. I have not told you about him because he has
been for us Croatian patriots, our ace-in-the-hole, the political card that
we play only when it is absolutely necessary. I am sworn to secrecy. But
trust me: he is the real deal and he will answer the call of duty.
But for now, like other historically triumphant political movments, we must
go underground. And this does really mean underground: we must be silent,
fall off the radar screen, wait and watch, until the right moment presents
itself. What I need to know from the two of you is: Can I--can we Croatian
patriots--count on you? Can we count on you to be discreet, disciplined and
completely silent about this? I await your answers. Please keep this e-mail
in the strictest confidence. Cheers, Stepinac
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: uto srp 24, 2007 9:16 am Naslov:

Povraćenje meni evo komentirati. Samo datu pogledajte.

Pogledajte još jednu stvar: nema jasno 28 prosinca 2005 o čima patiti da Đefrija Kuhnera žena rugaje.

PROVOKATORI TRPLJU. TRPLEJNJE JE NAJPRLJAVO.

...Tako zvani "tomislav" je Čermak, vjerojatno. "Nisam protherao četnika", priča sam najdosjedno.
Heroj je, Mili Bože...
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: uto srp 24, 2007 9:27 am Naslov:

A EVO JE RAZVOJ:

AKO KUHNER NIJE DOZVOLIO CWA-U GOTOVINU I DOMAGOJA SKUPA BRANITI, "AKO GOTOVINI NE TREBA"

I DOMAGOJEVO UHIĆENJE JE POSTALO, SA PREKRASNOJ EDITIRANOJ OBRANOJ

----- Original Message -----

From: Jeffrey Kuhner

To: Jackie Prkić; Ivana
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:58 PM

Subject:I have cut out all of the discussion on Gen. Gotovina

Jackie: Here are my edits. I have cut out all of the discussion on Gen. Gotovina. Otherwise, the letter is too long-way too long. Trust me, nobody reads long letters anymore. So I have kept the letter focused on the Margetic case. You can include the Gen. Gotovina material in a follow-up letter that focuses only on the General's case. I added your contact info at the bottom of the letter as well. Please take a look at it. Also, please give the letter one more read to make sure there are no words missing or elementary mistakes. You want this to look as professional as possible (perhaps Ivana-aka Brain-can help you with this).

Finally, let me introduce you to the spell check/grammar function. It is just under the Tools bar. Also, Microsoft Word has excellent spelling/grammar functions. Trust me on this when I tell you no one has ever died-or been maimed, mutilated, made seriously ill-by using spell check. I suggest using it once in a while. But that's just me.

Ultra-finally, I really enjoyed substantially editing this letter. Don't mind me, I just have a magazine to run and edit, a regular column to write, a very sick mother, a wife that is furious with me for spending time on Croatia, and a nasty, nasty cold. Otherwise, I can't think of any better way to use my precious time than to edit and re-write CWA letters. I just hope you remember this when you become the first woman president-either of Croatia or the U.S (I really don't care which, just as long as I get a nice Croatian-style dinner out of it). Cheers, Jeff OO

to je pismo koje je Jackie svime predala i u UN za Dear Honorable current/former U.S. government officials. http://www.croatianworldwideassociation.com/site/epage/35162_571.htm

Na žaost nisam čitala, kakvi Đeki "diskusije" sam napravljavala, kakvi uopće tu mogu biti "diskusije", Mili Bože.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: uto srp 24, 2007 11:58 am Naslov:

Vjerojatno, treba još malo dodati. Đeki ove sve je dobila vrlo radosno i ćini se i danas čeka, kada ju Hrvatska (...to je Kuhner) na Tuđmana postavi. Ima organizaciju danas praktičko iz sebi jednoj i prijevara koga može. Ako jesam stranac, meni cijelu godinu prijevaravala.
Eto je sitnica da meni prijevaralvaa, samo rada nikakvog ne bilo... samo joj laganje. A Domagoja praktičko ona i zatvorila sa svojim ljubavnikom provokacijoma. Traži ozboljno novac i čeka svog vlasnog prezidenctva.
Ivana se pobunila prema ovih grandijoznih plana i u nikakvu falšivu ulogu se metamorfirati ne poželjela. Za to ju Đefri i Đeki izbrisali odakle mogli da bit nitko Generala i uopće ne branio... Grgič, Đekin prijatelj, pčjuje po braniteljima i po Mišetiču... jos sa jednim Grgičem Gotovina bio u sam trenutak uhićenja.
Koga ne možemo zatvoriti, po ovim pljujemo, a po kome ne možemo, tim na kraju ćemo lagati bez kraja.
Editirana obrana provokatorska...

Tko lošje još prostog dušmanina - izdajca i provokator...
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Margetic · Postano: sri srp 25, 2007 12:33 am Naslov:

Ovdje smo ostavljeni na milost i nemilost komunističkim ubojicama baš kao i prije 50 godina ...
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"Vjerujem u poziv istine, a ne istinu po zadatku"
Napisano na kraju oporuke, u Zatvorskoj bolnici Zagreb, 34. dana štrajka glađu

Elena · Postano: sri srp 25, 2007 12:00 pm Naslov:

Kuhner je natjerao umetnuti "HDZ-KANADA" na VoC-u webu.

Da bit ubdaši ne samo u Hrvatskoj ljudjom život otrovali.

A u CWA umetnuo neonazistku VK.

...To je za obranu prema Hagi bit bili bi neonazisti i HDZ.

A U SAD-u KUHNER JE HVALISAO DA JE "PRIJATELJ" MINISTRA SIGURNOSTI KANADZKOG I MOŽE U KANADI KOGA I UBITI KROZ SVOJE "PRIJATELJSTVO"... DA BIT UDBAŠOM U HRVASKOJ KAMPANIJU NAPRAVITI...

I što o tome istinski misli Kanadzki ministar sugurnisti?... Hrvatskog ne pitam.
Ako kgbovca dosta sam sretala, apsolutno meni i to sve jasno.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: sri srp 25, 2007 3:07 pm Naslov:

A EVO JE KUHNER-STEPINAC

From: "Nick" <npkits@hotmail.com>

To: <webmaster@voiceofcroatia.net>

Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 2:32 PM

Subject: VoiceofCroatia Web Magazine

FWD: Kuhner.

Thankyou Kuhner for providing the emails of all the government officials to contact. This is a great day for justice. We are compiling many petitions to thank world leaders for the indictment against the general and his arrest for the murder of civilians and the largest ethnic cleansing incident in the entire conflict. With many signatures supporting the arrest of the general, it is our aim to reassure those in power that it was the right thing to do.

Thomas Berg.
Netherlands

Ako mogu zatražiti adres skinuti, čitajte svi najozbiljno danas...
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Ivana · Gost

Elena · Postano: sri srp 25, 2007 5:31 pm Naslov:

From: Elena

To: Đ + Đ + S

Subject: Čekam na odgovor

Čekam.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: čet srp 26, 2007 7:32 am Naslov:

A ja sam pripadam do raznih anti-fačistskih organizacije mnogo lijeta. Mnogo fačista realnih ruskih su naokolo meni, ne jednog čovijeka nedaleko od meni još i ubili i još ubiju. A u Hrvatskoj... NE u Hrvatskoj sam susretila danas JEDINSTVENOG FAŠISTA.

IMENUJE SE KAPIĆ.

...JE U NIZOZIJEMSKOJ.

POKAZUJE SRPSKI JEZIK AKO KORISTANI DA JOJ PISATI.

Umetnula ju u CWA Jackie Prkić. Točno prijed 8 prosinca 2006, da bit napravila kretensku "demonstraciju" iz 5 čovijeka u Hagi. Da nakon bit pisali da ovi 5 čovijeka napravili demonstraciju neonazistsku (Kapić i je neonacistka, a drugih 4 apsolutno ne znam, tko uopće su a i kakvoj naciji pripadaju).

A točno po por dana "demonstraciji" kurva Carla Gotovini još točke je dodala.

Da naime Jackie Prkić ovu neonacistku umjetnula, meni Ivica Fonti je napisao, kada sam ga tražila da bit ovu neonacistku izbrisao iz foruma CWA.

A sada neka Jackie i Ivica ove srušu.

Najdraga Kapić sada prijeti Margetiću ritualnim poganskim zabojstvom, a Ivica Fonti na ruskom webu u BiH "пишет" - to je piše.

Apsolutno komunističko-KGBovsko to je, stil njihov najpoznati: tkogod bilo explozirao evo i ovo... ako posljedice uhičenje Norca, nakon Gotovini. Kakva vez - nikakvoj.

KGBOVSKO-UDBAŠSKA.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Ivana · Gost

prva dva sluzbena accounta CWA su bila registrirana u Chicagu i Washingtonu D.C.
to u prvo vrijeme, kad su dosle nove stranice, i valjda kad je Dj predvidjala da ce zgrnuti novac "za Gotovinu"...

Elena · Postano: pet srp 27, 2007 6:34 am Naslov:

Apsolutno klasičko je provokatorsko - i suviše davno poznato:
Da malo joj što najsotonsku provokaciju napravila, treba joj za to još i novac prikupljavati...
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: pon srp 30, 2007 7:47 am Naslov:

A ETO TAKO ZVANI "PRIJATELJ GENERALA GOTOVINE" JEFF KUHNER TOČNO PO UHIĆENJU PIŠE

...Mada "Stepincom" da "vesti Hrvatsku do novoj revolucji...MADA OBVEZNO BEZ GOTOVINI" još po nekoliko dana se nazvao, 28 procinca 2005, kasnije od ovog pisma od 16 procinca - gledajte najprvo ga pismo iz tu u ovoj temi pistiranih

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackie Prkic"
To: "Z."
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 12:29 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: hitno razgovor sa generalom rosom

vidi ovo?

Jeffrey Kuhner wrote:

From: "Jeffrey Kuhner"
To: "Jackie Prkic"
Subject: Re: hitno razgovor sa generalom rosom
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:46:22 -0800

Jackie: Thanks for the offer. But I am out of Croatian politics. I
served my sentence. It's now up to the patriots in the Homeland. Cheers,
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Prkic
To: Jeff Kuhner
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: Fwd: hitno razgovor sa generalom rosom

Jeff,

Do you want to talk to General Roso? Its been cleared - he knows what's
up.

Let me know, I could conference you from my work.

I just told Domagoj we go the "lobbying and public relations" route
right now and focus on hitting Washington, DC.

Jesus.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: pon srp 30, 2007 4:24 pm Naslov:

To je POVIJEST NAIME IZDAJNIČKU...
I TO ZA OBOJICU

- OBOJICU ISTINSKIH PRIJATELJE...
Kada takvi mogu komugod prijateljima još biti.
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!

Elena · Postano: pon srp 30, 2007 5:40 pm Naslov:

što do posebnih života, da, njima koštuje bolje, ako to Jeff i Đeki željeli postati Tuđmani, Tomislavi, samo ne Kriste, i sada još točno neće postati.

a što do šteti, koju još su napravili, loša je utjeha, da ne postanu nikakvim tako zvanim Tomislavom ovi najprljavi...
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Quae medicamenta non sanant, ferrum sanat, quae ferrum non sanat, ignis sanat.
Hvala za Oluju!